“It’s just people saying, ‘Oh, there’s a bad thing there, let me get as close to it as you can so you can see how good I am.’ And I actually want them to do that,” said the musician
The 1975 frontman Matty Healy is speaking out about the ways he thinks the comments he made on a podcast about the rapper Ice Spice were misinterpreted.
In an interview with The New Yorkers published Monday, the musician, 34, opened up about the growing backlash he’s received since appearing on The Adam Friedland Show podcast in February.
While on the podcast, Healy told hosts Friedland and Nick Mullen that he had recently slipped into Ice Spice’s DMs and she hadn’t replied. At the mention of the rapper (who has a black father and mother of Dominican descent), Friedland and Mullen joked that she was an “Inuit Spice Girl” and continued to joke with Chinese and Hawaiian accents; Healy didn’t participate, but laughed along with the hosts.
During his interview with The New Yorkersthe “About You” singer acknowledged in a March conversation with writer Jia Tolentino that he had purposely provoked his fans “a little” but felt that was not the intent (Healy’s stage persona is that of an “awakened” liberal who things like climate change and toxic masculinity, though he often blurs the lines about what’s real and what he considers an acted “bit”.
“It doesn’t really matter. No one’s slumped over there at night at their computer, and their friend comes along and says, ‘What’s up, honey?’ and they say, ‘It’s just that thing with Matty Healy.’ That’s not happening,” he said. “If so, are you deceived or are you, sorry, a liar. You’re either lying or you’re hurt, or you’re a little crazy because you’re hurt. It’s just people saying, ‘Oh, there’s a bad case there, let me get as close as possible so you can see how good I am.’ And I actually want them to do that because they’re demonstrating something so basic.”
Ice Spice – who is a self-proclaimed fan of The 1975 – received a apologize on stage of Healy at a concert in New Zealand in April, where he told the audience that it was “never meant to hurt anyone”.
“Sorry if I offended you. Ice Spice, I’m sorry. It’s not because I’m annoyed that my joke was taken the wrong way, it’s because I don’t want Ice Spice to think I’m a dick.” he said of the 23-year-old rapper. “I love you, Ice Spice… It’s okay if I’m a cheater or whatever, but I don’t want to be seen as mean.”
He continued: “We all get it wrong, and I just have to do it in public and then apologize to Ice Spice and my life is just kind of weird. But I’m genuinely sorry if I upset her because I love her.” .”
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The “Princess Diana” rapper recently joined Healy’s girlfriend Taylor Swift onstage at New Jersey’s MetLife Stadium to perform their new remixed version of “Karma.” Although Healy and Swift have been linked since early May, the “Karma” duet and music video were shot months earlier, Swift, 33, said.
In his conversation with The New Yorker, Healy insisted he was no longer interested in being “publicly correct.”
“I’ve spent my decade trying to do that,” he said in a chat the journalist wrote a month before appearing on the podcast. “I’m more interested in the fact that I’m wrong, and that people see that and know what’s right.”
In a post-podcast conversation, he continued: “I think the whole exaggeration of my emails over the past year and a half maybe proves that something oppositional is happening, that I’m getting something out of my system. Because the truth is, I’m really very scared. We’re all scared, but right now I’m really scared.”
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Elsewhere in the interview, producer Jack Antonoff, who worked with Healy on his band’s most recent album Being funny in a foreign language – defended the singer-songwriter as “a very sincere person” who is prone to “being misunderstood because of how much he enjoys a little”.
“If you don’t know him, if you don’t understand him, because you’re not really in tune with the job, you could assume a cynicism that literally isn’t there,” he said.
Healy recently came as close to discussing his romance with Swift at a British music festival over the weekend, cryptically telling the crowd that he specifically wouldn’t comment on speculation about his love life.
“Is it all a bit? Is it sincere? Will he ever say anything about it?” he asked. “All these questions and more will be ignored for the next hour. Ladies and gentlemen, this is The 1975.”
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